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@FediTips @janxdevil I am getting your point and of course, I promote Fediverse as much as I can.

But there are definitely reasons why users prefer BlueSky massively. I am not sure about their MAU, because they are centralized service, there is no way to verify independently, but they may be easily 10 times our MAU.

I think the need to choose the instance is not the main problem of Mastodon and Fediverse. It is quite easy to explain to newbies. The problem is quite simple and straighforward: it is UX focused on power users.

There are too many new concepts to learn. There is no reason, why end users should have to even know about federation: it is the implementation, that matters. Backfilling history of toots and timeline of other instances instead of "opening original page". Starter packs (ie. easy sharing of user-generated lists - no CSV imports). Propper scanning for all replies (somehow). Better search feature. Better explore feature...

Also, even if Mastodon may be the best ActivityPub client so far, it is definitely not for everyone. It is quite complex chunk of code. The frontend is written in JavaScript, which is of course very standard and it is my fault I am not more familliar with it. But Ruby is pretty oldschool server side language and not among the most popular. This makes the backend quite unreadable... although probably still better, than node.js

Anyway, it is not easy for me to participate in development of neither frontend nor backend of Mastodon.

Writing completely different Fediverse application would be probably hard and I definitely don't feel one should attempt it as one man show. The team would need to start with such ActivityPub implementation, which would fix the issues like replies, and then maybe work with W3C to standardize account list sharing, so other Fedi implementations can join.

Good cellphone app would be a must. It would have to come with good instance selector. Etc.

@xChaos @janxdevil

If you care about MAU, why not just join Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc? They have much bigger MAUs than BlueSky.

What exactly is the point of joining BlueSky at all as it is going down exactly the same path as Twitter, Facebook etc? What advantage is there to users?

@FediTips @xChaos @janxdevil It could be that these 12M+ people just don't agree that it is going down exactly the same path as Twitter, Facebook etc?…

@mackuba @xChaos @janxdevil

You brought up MAUs as a reason to be on Bluesky.

I replied that if MAUs are your main concern, you can get even higher MAUs on Twitter etc.

As for going down the path, it's a matter of fact that Bluesky has adopted the same structure as Twitter, Facebook etc. Pretending it hasn't doesn't change this fact.

@FediTips @xChaos @janxdevil I didn't bring it up, @xChaos did

@mackuba @xChaos @janxdevil

Ahh apoloiges My mistake, sorry.

@FediTips @mackuba @janxdevil All I said is that many Bluesky users are quite nice and they have chosen the platform because lot of people went there and because it was straightforward to use.

I did my best, but Mastodon is simply not user friendly enough for most people. It offers some quite advanced features for power users, but at the same time, it lacks certain basics, which newbies would take for granted. The don't care about the architecture of the network, as long as they don't have to think about it.

We need to keep on trying and one day, Bluesky may seem boring to some and they will move here...

@xChaos @FediTips @janxdevil Tbh, power users also like having certain basics like working search or seeing complete threads (power user here) ;)