@homegrown account.conversations.im/domai Not tested it but the guy creating Conversations offers sth like this.

@3dcandy

My site growyourown.services is dedicated to helping non-technical people run their own online services through managed hosting.

I would like to add a section on making your own messaging service, and XMPP seems like the best candidate.

However, I need to find XMPP managed hosting companies to link to, otherwise there's no point adding the section.

@homegrown there are plenty out there not all necessarily xmpp. rocketchat and ejabber seem the prime considerations right now and there are managed hosting services available for both with a quick search

@3dcandy

I've had trouble finding XMPP managed hosters, would appreciate any links you come across!

@3dcandy

This is managed hosting as in, you pay them and they do all the technical stuff.

This seems to be rare for XMPP.

@homegrown autonomic as already posted on your webste do managed rocketchat hosting for starters

@homegrown few more here... but they are, like you said not that common. ejabberd is pretty simple to use within another selfhosted or cloud hosted app though

xmpp.work/all-listings/

Some time ago there was hosted.im which offered managed hosting for XMPP, free up to 5 users and with your domain. But it closed down.

It was a service from the people of ProcessOne.

@3dcandy @homegrown Not everyone wants to self host. I'd rather pay someone to do the hosting for me, which is why I love the above resource. It lists managed hosting companies I can browse and pay.

@blindscribe @homegrown of course - I was just misinterpreting what was being asked...

@homegrown @mike has some magic to make xmpp integrate with mastodon (which mastodon.radio does) which kinda fits?

@homegrown
I don't know of any, but building one with ansible and a cloud hosting provider shouldn't be to hard. I am a #matrix user myself

#matrix #matrixorg #matrixdotorg #matrixprotocol

a lot of people like Prosody, especially if you're into Lua.  I run Openfire, which is in Java based. It's a piece of cake to set up. If you're just using it for yourself or a few accounts try it on a five dollar Ramnode server or something, it would probably run ok.

@wago

Thank you :) But I'm guessing those require some kind of technical input from the user?

I'm talking about managed hosting, where there's no technical aspect at all? (like masto.host is for Mastodon)

@homegrown you might want to try @snikket_im its currently free since they're in beta snikket.org/hosting/ just email hosting@snikket.org

I'd highly recommend it, super easy to use and puts you in control of users, invites and groups.

What's even cooler is they've teamed up with jmp.chat/ to connect your xmpp address to a voip service:). This service is paid but super affordable.

That's a "re-branded" Prosody locked in a Docker container. Their github "open source" repo actually just downloads their docker image, doesn't have the source code to the server. If you crack open (like a walnut, there is no "open sesame command") their docker image it's prosody. Last time I checked there were no modifications.

@homegrown I love XMPP and lived there for a long time. But they are not exactly a current thing, and selfhosting that kind of communication is not simple - that also goes for Mastodon and Matrix. If it was for a small community, maybe Nextcloud Talk would be interesting?

@mjjzf

Yeah, that's why I'm following @snikket_im as they are trying to make XMPP simpler to self-host and use.

Mastodon self-hosting is very easy if you use a managed hosting service, no tech knowledge required!

Nextcloud Talk is good too, especially for closed communities.

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